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Postby Joel » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm

I thought it was a decent series, a semi-commendable stab at bringing some of the former glory back to the show.

I really liked the lack of manufactured drama and how things were allowed to flow naturally. I liked the new sleek look like the timestamps and the graphics were fab, and a much needed push in the right direction. The Launch was great with the interviews taking place beforehand and more use of friends & family, and the positive crowd throughout the series was fantastic. I'm so over the trash booing everybody - it makes me switch off.

The theme was pretty useless. I did what it needed to in terms of getting people to sign up who usually wouldn't, but it wasn't really the Year of the Woman, if anything it was the Battle of the Sexes.

But the incompetency is still there. 16 housemates and 5 on the final night meant 2 triple evictions and a backdoor. I hate backdoor evictions at the best of time, but I really don't think they have a place on Celebrity Big Brother.

Overall I thought it was good! But all it has done is highlight that the producers don't know what they want, and the public sure as hell don't know what they want either. They've messed the show up so much over the years and turned away the older fans by turning the show into C5's version of The Only Way is Chelsea Shore. And then trying to flip that on its head overnight isn't going to work, because you then alienate the remaining people who are there to watch a load of drunken idiots piss the bed and they switch off because they think it's boring. But the people you alienated in the first place aren't going to come back, because one decent series doesn't convince someone to come back who watched a once-decent show die on its arse over the course of 6 years.

I would be sad to see the show die, and this series proved that a group of interesting people living together is a strong enough premise for a TV show, but maybe it's time to rest it for a while.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Jack » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:18 pm

I wonder if Channel 5 were to sell the rights if anyone would buy it at this point. To an extent there's no point in them doing that really. They can still get a decent enough go out of the celebrity editions twice a year, but I feel like they'll give the civilian series one last blast this year, and if it flops just take it out the back.
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Postby Sam » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:39 pm

I think Channel 5 will axe it. But I have a feeling another network will pick it up before too long. Hopefully it'll be someone who will do the show properly, but I'm not holding my breath. If I could wish for anything, I'd wish for Channel 4 to get it back and go back to doing the show right. Maybe even get Davina back on board. Ya never know. It won't happen though. The most likely scenario I think is a much smaller channel picks it up and does it on the cheap and it'll be even tackier than ever before.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Stewart » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:22 pm

I found the most recent series really addictive and fascinating to watch. In terms of a social experiment, it's the closest they've come to that in the best part of a decade I think. And mainly from a LGBT point of view as well. It was interesting seeing India vs the rest of the housemates, how Courtney's closest friendships in the house were with the group of lads, and how Amanda and Wayne were 2 of Ann's staunchest defenders despite contrasting beliefs.

Channel 5 are apparently looking to cut costs in order to save BB.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity- ... channel-5/
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Postby Sam » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:08 am

Cut the summer celebrity series. Problem solved. They'll save millions and it's pointless having two a year anyway. It's overkill.
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Postby Jack » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:45 am

Maybe this sounds fickle, but why would they need to be splurging out an overly high amount of money on the civilian series anyway? Other than the usual costs, but I bet Channel 4 weren't paying out so much each series while they were doing it. They need to stop paying casting and mode agencies for the cast members of the civilian series. Most of the recent ones (I'd say last two/three series) are wannabe models/actors/personalities who C5 scout to try give them a career beginning. I'm sure they'd save money actually getting real civilians who want to be on the show. Unless there's not a demand from "real" people anymore.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Stewart » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:31 pm

C4 paid £40m a year for BB from 2003 to 2007, £60m a year for BB between 2008 and 2010. C5 are currently paying £40m a year.

Of course the show can be made for a lot less, but that's how valuable Endemol see the show as being to C5, so they'll want to try and get as much money as possible for it. It's less about how much it actually costs to make the show, and more about how much profit BB makes for C5 (from selling adverting, press, boosting the audience of other shows etc etc). Endemol won't want to feel like they're getting ripped off, they'll want as good a deal as possible. It's all just business.

Any new deal will be for much less than £40m a year, and if Endemol have any sense they'll take what C5 offer because there's not much chance of another broadcaster picking it up soon. Unless C5 make a really stupidly low offer. It's likely a source at C5 that has told the press that C5 is thinking of dropping BB - it's to try and cause panic at Endemol, and make them think C5 is actually doing it, and is thus likely to lower the value of BB.

Endemol did it to C4 back in 2006. There were reports in the press that ITV were thinking of putting in a bid for BB after the huge success of BB7 and the massive flop of Love Island (lol). This was just to try and cause C4 to think they were away to lose their highest rated show, so they ended up paying more than they should have for BB. It came out afterwards that ITV had no interest in buying BB and never considered a bid. There were similar reports about ITV putting in a bid for BB back in 2014 when Viacom took over C5. All just tactics.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Jack » Fri May 11, 2018 10:21 pm

Frow announced a budget slash for this year anyway so, it's whatever. They're also not meant to be starting it until early/mid July because they want to miss the majority of Love Island so they're not going up against it.

Frow doesn't want Big Brother on the air but the celebrity series are gaining C5 their biggest audience so they won't let it up, but it needs a new team behind it to give it the refresh it needs. Even if it's not the TV phenomenon it was before, there's always going to be a loyal fanbase behind it that will wait until they see another amazing series again.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Sam » Wed May 23, 2018 8:29 pm

I believe Celebrity Big Brother will survive in some form, whether C5 renew or another channel picks it up. I can see the regular series going away for good. And if I'm honest, I'm over it now. I love a good series of Big Brother more than anything, but it's so rare for Channel 5. Only BB14 and BB17 were worth bothering with in the end.
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Re: Big Brother UK - General Chat - No Spoilers

Postby Stewart » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:41 pm

The Love Island phenomenon shows no signs of slowing down. The show gave ITV2 it's best ever ratings (3m) last night with its series 4 launch. If it sustains that, it'll be the kind of ratings normal BB hasn't seen since BB9.

It doesn't help the case for renewing civilian BB, and if it does get renewed beyond this year it'll never air in May/June/July again whilst Love Island is still on.
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